Unlocking Payment Economics: Strategic Value for CFOs

Published on September 21, 2026

In this episode of the Level Up podcast, Nick Araco sits down with Daniel Jasinski, Founder and CFO of the Payment Economics Institute, to discuss how finance leaders can unlock significant untapped value within enterprise payments. They explore how viewing payments as "capital in motion" can shift them from a back-office function to a strategic financial lever, impacting working capital and overall financial performance.

Payments as a Strategic Financial Portfolio

Daniel Jasinski introduces the concept of Payment Economics, advocating for treating payments not just as operational necessities but as a portfolio of assets. He explains how organizations can measure and improve payment yield, optimize working capital, and enhance the economic return of payment decisions. This strategic approach highlights the potential for CFOs to uncover hidden value by scrutinizing timing, payment methods, rebates, and dynamic discounting.

"Payments should be managed as capital in motion. When we change our mindset, we begin to see all these levers to extract value from them."

— Daniel Jasinski, Founder and CFO, Payment Economics Institute

The Evolution of AP and Human Judgment in Automation

The conversation delves into the evolving role of Accounts Payable (AP), suggesting that it is transforming into a payment portfolio management function. As technology advances, Nick and Daniel discuss the importance of integrating human judgment with automation. They emphasize that while AI and automation can streamline processes, the nuanced decisions around supplier relationships, risk management, and strategic payment terms still require human oversight to maximize benefits and avoid costly missteps.

Evaluating Payment Technology and Future Vision

Daniel provides crucial advice on what CFOs should consider before committing to new payment technology, stressing the need for clear objectives and a thorough understanding of potential returns. He shares his vision for the Payment Economics Institute, aiming to establish a globally recognized discipline that empowers finance professionals to turn payments into measurable financial performance through education, frameworks, and advisory services. The discussion underscores the profound impact this evolving field could have on enterprise finance.

"CFOs should still be treating payments like plumbing instead of a strategic asset."

— Nick Araco, Host of Level Up Podcast

This is just a taste of the full conversation. Listen to the complete episode to hear Daniel’s insights on creating a new academic discipline from scratch and his "defining bet" on the future of enterprise payments. Don't miss it!